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Questions for Discussion from the Book, More Disciples

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The Revised and Enlarged Version of More Disciples (now available at Amazon) adds significant text, including Questions for Discussion. For the benefit of any who bought the “1.0” version of the book, we’re including those questions here in full so you don’t miss out.


Chapter 1

Why Make More Disciples

  1. How might you have previously answered the question, “What is a disciple?” Do you agree or disagree with the definition provided in this chapter?
  2. How did you view disciple-making before reading this chapter? Compare and contrast your prior understanding with any nuances you’ve picked up from this reading.
  3. This chapter pointed to the fact that the early church seemed all the more to thrive in the midst of persecution. Would you say there is persecution where you will be making disciples? Has the church thrived? Offer some theories as to why or why not?
  4. How might you have previously explained the parable of the lost sheep in Luke 15? As a result of reading this chapter, how has your understanding changed, if at all?
  5. If a friend were to ask, “Does making more disciples somehow add to the global voice offering glory to God,” how would you answer? Explain the basis of your position.

 

Chapter 2

A Way Forward

  1. Roland Allen’s books weren’t published until some 50 years after he wrote them. Why do you suppose it took a while for others to see value in his writings? (Try doing some research online about this question.)
  2. Some have ventured that Patterson’s approach was remarkably similar to CPM/DMM approaches used today — and it was plainly very effective for his time. Yet it can be said that relatively few churches/workers implemented his strategies. Why do you think it’s seemingly difficult for churches and leaders to change the way they do disciple-making? How might we shift the future?
  3. McGavran witnessed whole villages and sometimes entire districts coming to Christ at once. Try to picture being involved in something like that. How would it change the way you felt about evangelism and church growth? Explain.
  4. Pick one of Garrison’s universal elements that you believe is commonly misunderstood or about which people today have a misconception. Offer some ideas as to why.
  5. Garrison is a researcher. He found that the 10 Universal Elements were present in every movement toward Christ that he studied. How many of these elements might exist in the church that you attend or in the field where you hope to make disciples? How might you be a part of changing the future there?

 

Chapter 3

Disciple-Making Works

  1. Describe the growth you’ve seen so far in the church you attend or in the field where you hope to make disciples. Compare or contrast this with the case studies illustrated in this chapter. Why might God bring about such movements in one part of the world but not in another? Explain as best you can.
  2. Some of these stories seem almost beyond belief. Yet researchers like Garrison have actually visited and verified the fruit. Imagine how you might feel as you interview members of the 27th generation of disciples in a rapidly-growing movement toward Christ. How would that impact your faith in or walk with Christ? Explain.
  3. Does it bother you that the Global South might end up sending more missionaries than historically mission-active regions like the USA, Europe and Australia? Why or why not?
  4. Does it bother you that the church is growing faster in the Global South than in the Global North? Offer some of your own theories as to why this might be taking place.
  5. Do you believe movements like these can happen in North America? Why or why not?

 

Chapter 4

Prayer is the Catalyst

  1. If Jesus wants all people to be saved, why do you think prayer seems to be a universal element in launching disciple-making movements? Why do you think God seemingly waits on us to pray?
  2. How might we motivate believers to understand the potential power behind prayer? How could you do so for the initiatives that you are imagining for the church you attend or the place where you hope to make disciples?
  3. If you were asked to pray for an unreached people group, never before engaged with the Good News, what would be some of your requests to God?
  4. Take a moment to look up an unreached people group at www.JoshuaProject.net. Read about their needs and the opportunities for the Good News to spread there. Now take a few minutes actually to put into practice the concept of praying for the people about whom you’re reading.

 

Chapter 5

Obedience as the Command

  1. Describe a church you have previously attended. (It could be your home church or the one you attend now.) In what ways do you feel this church has emphasized knowledge and attendance? In what ways has this church emphasized obedience and accountability?
  2. Now that you’ve read this chapter, if it were up to you to design the perfect church, how might you recommend that we do church differently? (Note: Please avoid “trashing the bride of Christ.” Please give respect to the church leaders who have gone before us and have done the best they can with what they understood.)
  3. Have you seen churches which have emphasized teaching knowledge more than requiring obedience? If so, in your opinion, what is the root cause for this behavior?
  4. This chapter compared obedience to breathing. What was difficult or helpful for you in looking at obedience in this way? If possible, explain your answer by giving an example?
  5. This chapter opens the door to the concept that we might hear God’s voice in the present rather than merely in the past. Is this concept troubling or encouraging to you? Do you agree or disagree with the idea?

 

Chapter 6

Discovery-based Learning as the Method

  1. Assess why discovery-based learning might provide a better solution for training leaders in a fast-growing movement? Has your church or organization tried to use this approach? If not, venture guesses as to why not.
  2. Some have said that utilizing the same set of questions about each new Bible passage would become formulaic (the pattern would “get old” or become too mechanical rather quickly). Do you agree or disagree?
  3. What would it mean to you to study the Bible using discovery-based learning? Would you feel you were somehow “missing out” on the insights of a great teacher that you respect or know? Explain.
  4. You’ve probably heard before that “active learning” increases our chances of retaining information. Yet, would you agree or disagree – most churches have retained the form of teaching known as “the sermon.” Offer some best guesses about why the church has retained this approach down through the centuries. Does it create a moral dilemma for you to ponder the possibility of transforming this approach to a new paradigm?
  5. For you personally, does it bother you that discovery-based learning isn’t mentioned per se in the Bible?

 

Chapter 7

Peer Accountability

  1. Perhaps you’ve already participated in a Bible study in which you were held accountable to make decisions about your actions then follow through with them. (If not, then try to imagine it.) Does it – or would it – annoy you to have someone ask you, the following week, if you followed through? Explain.
  2. The author held that accountability works not because we want to look good (pride), but rather, because we don’t want to look bad (disobedience). Do you agree or disagree? Explain.
  3. This chapter gave some very practical ways to implement accountability at the close of a Bible study. Analyze for your life – does this concept seem too rigid or cult-like to you? Why or why not?
  4. This chapter provided an example of a Bible figure sharing his plans or next steps prior to implementing them. Do you agree or disagree that this is an example of peer accountability? Why or why not?

 

Chapter 8

Multiplying Groups

  1. This chapter doesn’t criticize a church for meeting in large gatherings. Rather, it points to a way forward that focuses on multiplication rather than addition. Can you think of an example of this in a church or campus ministry that you’ve attended? How might multiplication be a help?
  2. Think hard about your own life. This chapter speaks of regularly being part of two churches – one church or group for our own spiritual worship and a second church or group that we’re helping launch. Ponder this thought for your own life. What would it take for you to implement this concept?
  3. Evaluate the effectiveness of a church or group that you’ve attended compared to the paradigm presented in this chapter. Compare and contrast.
  4. Assume for a moment that multiplication is the best way forward. How might we help the church at large to grasp this paradigm and do it?

 

Chapter 9

Maximizing Fruit

  1. Compare and contrast the “SOAPS” Bible study approach to the one you’re using now. What are the advantages or disadvantages of each?
  2. Do you believe that being in an accountability group (such as the one described in this chapter) would be helpful for the typical believer? Do you think the typical believer is in such a group? If not, can you venture some guesses as to why or why not?
  3. What would concern you most about participating in a 3/3 group, as described in this chapter? Explain what you think might be some benefits and also some risks.
  4. This chapter offered two key approaches for increasing our own involvement in prayer. (Can you remember them both?) How do these approaches compare or contrast with typical prayer approaches used in churches you’ve attended? Give examples.
  5. Consider the town, city, people group, or country where your church is located or where you hope to make disciples. How does it change the way you think to ask the question, “What’s it going to take for all these people to hear the Good News and follow Jesus?”

 

Chapter 10

Im pacts on Disciple-Making

  1. Offer some of your best guesses as to why you believe the church seems to flourish in the midst of persecution.
  2. Examine your own life and the amount of time you have to add activities or approaches. When you read the ideas in this book and process the time it would take to implement them, is it sobering for you? Why or why not? How will you personally decide about your time priorities?
  3. Have you ever experienced cross-cultural confusion or “shock?” Give an example.
  4. The author wrote in this chapter that the church can expand rapidly within a common language and/or culture. Is there a language or cultural group that you wish could know and follow Jesus? If so, describe it.
  5. This chapter presents the concept of filtering for a “person of peace” to help introduce you to another culture. Have you ever experienced anything like this (someone introducing you to a new group or crowd)? If so, describe how it worked. Analyze how it might work with the Good News of Jesus.

 

Chapter 11

Templates for Training

  1. This chapter provides several formats for introducing CPM/DMM strategies in your church or in the place where you hope to make disciples. Imagine for a moment… why would you think the author would offer these formats? What were his intentions? In your opinion, are those intentions valid? Most importantly, how effective would you say his proposed formats might be in your church or in the place where you hope to make disciples?
  2. Evaluate the question: “Is it sneaky to start the organic way?” (In other words, must we gain the approval of our church or organization’s leaders in order to experiment/experience CPM/DMM approaches?)
  3. In your opinion, does the multiplicative approach remind you of network marketing? How is it similar? How is it different? Does it bother you to think of Jesus as asking us to “market” (i.e., persuade people to follow) the Good News? Why or why not?
  4. In your experience, where do these ever-expanding chains break down? In other words, offer some guesses as to what might sabotage a movement.
  5. Based on your learning style, would you rather be involved in a “live training” with an “expert” (an experienced disciple-maker) or would you be comfortable using a web-driven tool like Zúme as your learning approach? Explain.

 

Chapter 12

Tools and Tips for Im plementers

  1. This chapter presents 17 tools or tips for those wishing to launch CPM/DMM in their particular context. Pick out the top three approaches that would seem the most practical and effective for you, in your church or context. Explain why you chose those three.
  2. Consider the idea of making a list of people for whom you will pray. Does it bother you to think you might be on such a list (that someone else made)? Explain why or why not.
  3. For your learning style and preferences, would you rather learn “Creation to Judgment” (C2J) or the Three Circles Life Conversation? Explain why. What would it take for you to learn such a tool well? Would it be helpful? If so, what’s stopping you?
  4. This chapter mentioned that it might feel, at first, intimidating to think of baptizing someone. Does it seem that way to you? Why or why not?
  5. Is it hard for you to lead others? (For example, are you afraid you’re not good enough to do so?) Explain your answer by referencing the section, “Duckling Discipleship.”

 

Chapter 13

Frequently Asked Questions

  1. This chapter attempts to discuss how CPM/DMM views the existing church. Explain why that question is difficult to answer. (Hint: Remember that “CPM/DMM” isn’t an organization but an organic collection of strategies and life practices.) In light of what you’ve now learned (or learned previously) about CPM/DMM, how do you view the existing church. (Remember — never trash the bride of Christ.) In an ideal world, what would be your perfect design for the church?
  2. Sometimes in the past, the idea of “discipleship” has meant other things than the way the term “disciple-making” is being used in CPM/DMM world. Compare and contrast with some of the meanings you’ve heard previously. How is the CPM/DMM usage helpful or not helpful? Why?
  3. This chapter pointed out that some CPM/DMM trainers emphasize only baptizing groups (never individuals). How do you feel about this idea? This chapter asserted that the Bible gave examples of instances in which individuals were allowed to come to Christ as individuals. Do you agree or disagree? How do you reconcile these two seeming contradictions between some trainers’ philosophy and these case studies from the Bible?
  4. Analyze the difference between emphasizing “works” and accountability (in CPM/DMM strategies). How do you feel about the difference?
  5. Do you think CPM/DMM will, in the end, be a fad? Give your reasoning.

 

Chapter 14

A Call for Unity

  1. Try to think of an example of a new product or movement that began with one individual or one company. In those cases, how did it help or hurt the promotion and acceptance of that product or movement? In your opinion, how does it help or hurt that CPM/DMM strategy wasn’t “invented” or isn’t shepherded, as such, by any one person or organization?
  2. At this point in your understanding of implementing CPM/DMM strategy and life practices, would you rather be bold in your proclamation? … or do you see yourself more “laid back?” How will you react when you meet someone who feels it’s imperative to be more forthright in one’s presentation of the Good News? Explain why.
  3. Can you think of any other examples in which Godly men and women have disagreed about doctrine or biblical approaches? Name a couple and give examples of how this has helped or hurt the growth in Kingdom of God worldwide.

 

Chapter 15

Epilogue: Understanding Faithfulness

  1. Curtis Sergeant feels that two ideas have caused a number of problems in the church today. Which do you think has caused more problems than the other and why?
  2. Does it bother you to consider that you might be following someone who is still “learning to ride a bike?” (In other words, could you see yourself following an imperfect mentor?) Explain your answer.
  3. There have been some disturbing studies recently, like the one referenced in this chapter by Lifeway Research. Can you remember any recent findings about Christendom that shocked you? For example, something about a certain generation falling away or a study about how many people can’t remember what the Great Commission is? How can you reconcile these findings with our current method of discipling believers? In other words, what has gone wrong? How would you fix things if you were in charge?
  4. Where are you on the spectrum of knowledge versus practice? For example, do you believe God can work through a new believer to win or teach others? Why or why not?
  5. This chapter emphasizes a humble spirit for all teachers. Can you remember a preacher or pastor who seemed a bit prideful? How did it impact your willingness to listen and obey?

 

Wrapping up

Questions for Discussion about the book as a whole:

  1. What did you find most interesting in this book? What did you like?
  2. What did you find most difficult? What caused you the most confusion?
  3. What did you learn about people in this book?
  4. What did this book teach you about God?
  5. Is there anything in this book that you feel called to obey? What will you do about the things you’ve learned? What will be your next step? How will you begin implementing these teachings? Explain.
  6. Is there someone you might be able to train about any of these concepts? (Please write down a name.) Who can you tell that might hold you accountable to do that?
  7. With whom can you share this book and these teachings?

Discipleship Through the Eyes of Youth: Day 20

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This morning I did my SOAP study over 1 Timothy 1. My week at camp was spent studying 1 Timothy so I thought it would be a nice recap to go over it all with the SOAP method for the rest of the 30 day challenge. I had a free morning so I was really able to dig deeper into the word than I have been able to lately. It was awesome(: Coming out of my SOAP time I really feel like God might be calling me to talk with my grandmother about salvation before I leave for college. I know that my parents have tried in the past, but I really feel like this is something that I need to do. I can’t just live on knowing that she isn’t a follower of Christ and do nothing about it. I love her to much to not try. Once I share my heart with her I’ll know that I’ve done all I can. So prayers for my grandmother’s heart would be greatly appreciated in the days to come.

I also got to catch up with different people that I’ve been praying for throughout the challenge and see how they are doing. In addition, I nailed down the 2nd and 3rd meetings for my 5 people to share my story with from the Day 18 challenge and figured out my 5th person! She wasn’t originally on my list of 25, but she easily could be and through texting her today I really feel like she is the 5th person God would like me to share my testimony with.

I’ll leave you with the verse that resonated with me the most today from 1 Timothy 1:

The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

– 1 Timothy 1:5 –

Watson Scripture List

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David Watson is famous for urging that, when starting a disciple making movement in a new culture, one should always create lists of relevant and life-impacting scriptures for the discovery Bible studies in that culture. His strong opinion (does he have any opinions otherwise? : ) ) is that these scriptures should be custom-created for each context. That’s why he’s so reluctant to release general lists: for fear that others will simply copy those lists and re-use them at large. But, at the request of some of our participants here at MoreDisciples.com, we twisted his arm and asked him to provide a few lists as templates so we could all get an idea of what he means. Here’s a pdf with a sampling of some of his lists — as templates for your context. : )

http://moredisciples.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/watson_scripture_lists.pdf

Day 20 – S.O.A.P.S.

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So, my verses are Phil 2:5-8; which speaks of having the same “mindset as Christ.”  The NIV used to say the that Jesus did not consider “equality with God something to be grasped.”  Now, it says, Jesus “did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage.”  How much more clear, and applicable to our circumstance, the change makes.  This, I feel, is the value of SOAPS.  We realize that God’s Word, and our relationship with Christ, is not for just our own advantage or advancement; but also light and life to our neighbor.  And, if Jesus is indeed our model, if indeed our mindset is missional.  Then, as we meditate on the Word, we’ll automatically be thinking of people with whom to share it.  There-in is the “nature of a servant.”

Day 20: SOAPS with an S

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SOAPS is great.  I feel like the time I put into actually writing the verses that stuck out to me it helped me to focus a lot better.  Then when I had to write them over it made me think through them.  Many times I just quickly go through my devotions just to get done and 10 minutes later I don’t even remember what I did.  This helps me to “chew” on the scripture a little better.  I then like that what we learn we are going to obey.  The guys on this sight mentioned the book “Contagious Disciplemaking” so I chose to start reading it.  One chapter was about how we show love to God by obeying.  What if we were obedient to everything we knew?  Instead we are obedient to only about 10% of what we know because we thought Christianity was about learning.  What if as we discipled people we taught them to obey everything they learned?  That they thought it was expected and normal to obey.  I like taking action based on what God revealed to me in scripture that day.
If we are going to make disciples who make disciples the last “S” is very important.  The last “S” is sharing.  If we share we are having to teach and know what we are sharing because there might be questions.  We will learn things we have to teach a lot more that if we just learn them.  I really love this acronym and have been using it with my boys.  I want to challenge them to write down the verses now as we are doing this so they can think through these things on their own and write down what they mean to them.  ⅔ the way done with the challenge.  Really enjoying it.  

Discipleship When Life Is Busy: Day 20

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Day 20: SOAPS.  I am writing this just before bed and I just finished my SOAPS bible study on Luke 6.  I like this way of devotion because it provides a structure to think about what you are reading.  Sometimes when I read the bible I find myself reading the words on the page but they maybe don’t stick with me, or quite frankly, there have been times when I will be reading the words but thinking of something else and then I have to go back and re-read what I was reading when I was distracted.  Providing this kind of structure to my study of the bible would help me to be intentional about what I am reading and how I plan to apply that knowledge.  The main thing that I want to start doing different is the time of day that I study.  I usually study at night, but I like the idea of doing it in the morning (at least attempting to…I treasure my sleep :)).  If I would spend time doing a SOAPS study in the morning that would give me the opportunity to think throughout the day about how to apply it and share it with others.  I could say that I will study at night and then implement the next day, but I know how life gets busy and I get forgetful.  I think it would be good to have that morning reminder.

In other news, since you are my captive audience right now, let me tell you about this incredible event that I went to at our church tonight!  Each quarter a team from our church puts together a night to learn about, pray for, and support our missionaries.  We call it Global Outreach Night and tonight was the North Africa Edition.  The workers that we support who are working in northern Africa were actually there and spoke about what God is doing where they work.  The focus of their work is starting a disciple making movement, which is exactly what we are learning to do through this 30 day training.  It was AMAZING to hear about the work that God is doing through them and the team they work with.  They spoke of making disciples through a lot of the things we are being challenged to do and how those disciples are now making disciples.  Please take a moment to pray for these workers in Africa and the discipleship groups that they are beginning.

Expectant Faith

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What God desires, according to His Word, is that we have “expectant faith,” as if we could already SEE what He’s bringing about, even before it comes to pass. If we can muster that kind of faith, we will not only be very optimistic about the future, but, in addition, we’ll be excited about the present. Here’s Curtis Sergeant, trainer in launching disciple making movements, explaining what all this would mean:

“Do we Keep on Praying for the List of 25?”

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Today we received this question from a 30-Day Challenge Participant…

“Hi! I am on day 8 of the challenge now and I had a really good experience on the prayer-walk day.

I have a few questions: Should I keep on praying for the 25 people on the list every day (or was this just for that specific day). Another question; Should I study Mat.5, 6 and 7 every day of the challenge and also 4 different verses each day? Maybe stupid questions but I just want to make sure I do everything correct, and not miss out on anything the Lord has for me.

Blessings, [name withheld  as a courtesy]   (from the Netherlands)

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone


 

We answered this participant like this:

[name withheld  as a courtesy ], it was great to hear from you. Congratulations on making it to the 8th day. Keep up the good work, brother.

You asked about the list of 25. This was meant to be a one-time assignment overall, but it WOULD be great to go back and look over the list of 25 occasionally. For example, on your email for TOMORROW, we actually suggest that you pull out that list of 25 and go through it to find someone special. You’ll see that tomorrow.

As for the readings, trainers do recommend that we read 4 to 5 chapters daily — although it wouldn’t have to Matt. 5,6, and 7 EVERY day. But for the “SOAPS” assignment, the sermon on the mount just really works well. See the discussion on Day 20:

http://moredisciples.com/soaps/

You’re doing everything great, brother. Keep it up.

Doug

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