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Questions for Discussion from the Book, More Disciples

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The Revised and Enlarged Version of More Disciples (now available at Amazon) adds significant text, including Questions for Discussion. For the benefit of any who bought the “1.0” version of the book, we’re including those questions here in full so you don’t miss out.


Chapter 1

Why Make More Disciples

  1. How might you have previously answered the question, “What is a disciple?” Do you agree or disagree with the definition provided in this chapter?
  2. How did you view disciple-making before reading this chapter? Compare and contrast your prior understanding with any nuances you’ve picked up from this reading.
  3. This chapter pointed to the fact that the early church seemed all the more to thrive in the midst of persecution. Would you say there is persecution where you will be making disciples? Has the church thrived? Offer some theories as to why or why not?
  4. How might you have previously explained the parable of the lost sheep in Luke 15? As a result of reading this chapter, how has your understanding changed, if at all?
  5. If a friend were to ask, “Does making more disciples somehow add to the global voice offering glory to God,” how would you answer? Explain the basis of your position.

 

Chapter 2

A Way Forward

  1. Roland Allen’s books weren’t published until some 50 years after he wrote them. Why do you suppose it took a while for others to see value in his writings? (Try doing some research online about this question.)
  2. Some have ventured that Patterson’s approach was remarkably similar to CPM/DMM approaches used today — and it was plainly very effective for his time. Yet it can be said that relatively few churches/workers implemented his strategies. Why do you think it’s seemingly difficult for churches and leaders to change the way they do disciple-making? How might we shift the future?
  3. McGavran witnessed whole villages and sometimes entire districts coming to Christ at once. Try to picture being involved in something like that. How would it change the way you felt about evangelism and church growth? Explain.
  4. Pick one of Garrison’s universal elements that you believe is commonly misunderstood or about which people today have a misconception. Offer some ideas as to why.
  5. Garrison is a researcher. He found that the 10 Universal Elements were present in every movement toward Christ that he studied. How many of these elements might exist in the church that you attend or in the field where you hope to make disciples? How might you be a part of changing the future there?

 

Chapter 3

Disciple-Making Works

  1. Describe the growth you’ve seen so far in the church you attend or in the field where you hope to make disciples. Compare or contrast this with the case studies illustrated in this chapter. Why might God bring about such movements in one part of the world but not in another? Explain as best you can.
  2. Some of these stories seem almost beyond belief. Yet researchers like Garrison have actually visited and verified the fruit. Imagine how you might feel as you interview members of the 27th generation of disciples in a rapidly-growing movement toward Christ. How would that impact your faith in or walk with Christ? Explain.
  3. Does it bother you that the Global South might end up sending more missionaries than historically mission-active regions like the USA, Europe and Australia? Why or why not?
  4. Does it bother you that the church is growing faster in the Global South than in the Global North? Offer some of your own theories as to why this might be taking place.
  5. Do you believe movements like these can happen in North America? Why or why not?

 

Chapter 4

Prayer is the Catalyst

  1. If Jesus wants all people to be saved, why do you think prayer seems to be a universal element in launching disciple-making movements? Why do you think God seemingly waits on us to pray?
  2. How might we motivate believers to understand the potential power behind prayer? How could you do so for the initiatives that you are imagining for the church you attend or the place where you hope to make disciples?
  3. If you were asked to pray for an unreached people group, never before engaged with the Good News, what would be some of your requests to God?
  4. Take a moment to look up an unreached people group at www.JoshuaProject.net. Read about their needs and the opportunities for the Good News to spread there. Now take a few minutes actually to put into practice the concept of praying for the people about whom you’re reading.

 

Chapter 5

Obedience as the Command

  1. Describe a church you have previously attended. (It could be your home church or the one you attend now.) In what ways do you feel this church has emphasized knowledge and attendance? In what ways has this church emphasized obedience and accountability?
  2. Now that you’ve read this chapter, if it were up to you to design the perfect church, how might you recommend that we do church differently? (Note: Please avoid “trashing the bride of Christ.” Please give respect to the church leaders who have gone before us and have done the best they can with what they understood.)
  3. Have you seen churches which have emphasized teaching knowledge more than requiring obedience? If so, in your opinion, what is the root cause for this behavior?
  4. This chapter compared obedience to breathing. What was difficult or helpful for you in looking at obedience in this way? If possible, explain your answer by giving an example?
  5. This chapter opens the door to the concept that we might hear God’s voice in the present rather than merely in the past. Is this concept troubling or encouraging to you? Do you agree or disagree with the idea?

 

Chapter 6

Discovery-based Learning as the Method

  1. Assess why discovery-based learning might provide a better solution for training leaders in a fast-growing movement? Has your church or organization tried to use this approach? If not, venture guesses as to why not.
  2. Some have said that utilizing the same set of questions about each new Bible passage would become formulaic (the pattern would “get old” or become too mechanical rather quickly). Do you agree or disagree?
  3. What would it mean to you to study the Bible using discovery-based learning? Would you feel you were somehow “missing out” on the insights of a great teacher that you respect or know? Explain.
  4. You’ve probably heard before that “active learning” increases our chances of retaining information. Yet, would you agree or disagree – most churches have retained the form of teaching known as “the sermon.” Offer some best guesses about why the church has retained this approach down through the centuries. Does it create a moral dilemma for you to ponder the possibility of transforming this approach to a new paradigm?
  5. For you personally, does it bother you that discovery-based learning isn’t mentioned per se in the Bible?

 

Chapter 7

Peer Accountability

  1. Perhaps you’ve already participated in a Bible study in which you were held accountable to make decisions about your actions then follow through with them. (If not, then try to imagine it.) Does it – or would it – annoy you to have someone ask you, the following week, if you followed through? Explain.
  2. The author held that accountability works not because we want to look good (pride), but rather, because we don’t want to look bad (disobedience). Do you agree or disagree? Explain.
  3. This chapter gave some very practical ways to implement accountability at the close of a Bible study. Analyze for your life – does this concept seem too rigid or cult-like to you? Why or why not?
  4. This chapter provided an example of a Bible figure sharing his plans or next steps prior to implementing them. Do you agree or disagree that this is an example of peer accountability? Why or why not?

 

Chapter 8

Multiplying Groups

  1. This chapter doesn’t criticize a church for meeting in large gatherings. Rather, it points to a way forward that focuses on multiplication rather than addition. Can you think of an example of this in a church or campus ministry that you’ve attended? How might multiplication be a help?
  2. Think hard about your own life. This chapter speaks of regularly being part of two churches – one church or group for our own spiritual worship and a second church or group that we’re helping launch. Ponder this thought for your own life. What would it take for you to implement this concept?
  3. Evaluate the effectiveness of a church or group that you’ve attended compared to the paradigm presented in this chapter. Compare and contrast.
  4. Assume for a moment that multiplication is the best way forward. How might we help the church at large to grasp this paradigm and do it?

 

Chapter 9

Maximizing Fruit

  1. Compare and contrast the “SOAPS” Bible study approach to the one you’re using now. What are the advantages or disadvantages of each?
  2. Do you believe that being in an accountability group (such as the one described in this chapter) would be helpful for the typical believer? Do you think the typical believer is in such a group? If not, can you venture some guesses as to why or why not?
  3. What would concern you most about participating in a 3/3 group, as described in this chapter? Explain what you think might be some benefits and also some risks.
  4. This chapter offered two key approaches for increasing our own involvement in prayer. (Can you remember them both?) How do these approaches compare or contrast with typical prayer approaches used in churches you’ve attended? Give examples.
  5. Consider the town, city, people group, or country where your church is located or where you hope to make disciples. How does it change the way you think to ask the question, “What’s it going to take for all these people to hear the Good News and follow Jesus?”

 

Chapter 10

Im pacts on Disciple-Making

  1. Offer some of your best guesses as to why you believe the church seems to flourish in the midst of persecution.
  2. Examine your own life and the amount of time you have to add activities or approaches. When you read the ideas in this book and process the time it would take to implement them, is it sobering for you? Why or why not? How will you personally decide about your time priorities?
  3. Have you ever experienced cross-cultural confusion or “shock?” Give an example.
  4. The author wrote in this chapter that the church can expand rapidly within a common language and/or culture. Is there a language or cultural group that you wish could know and follow Jesus? If so, describe it.
  5. This chapter presents the concept of filtering for a “person of peace” to help introduce you to another culture. Have you ever experienced anything like this (someone introducing you to a new group or crowd)? If so, describe how it worked. Analyze how it might work with the Good News of Jesus.

 

Chapter 11

Templates for Training

  1. This chapter provides several formats for introducing CPM/DMM strategies in your church or in the place where you hope to make disciples. Imagine for a moment… why would you think the author would offer these formats? What were his intentions? In your opinion, are those intentions valid? Most importantly, how effective would you say his proposed formats might be in your church or in the place where you hope to make disciples?
  2. Evaluate the question: “Is it sneaky to start the organic way?” (In other words, must we gain the approval of our church or organization’s leaders in order to experiment/experience CPM/DMM approaches?)
  3. In your opinion, does the multiplicative approach remind you of network marketing? How is it similar? How is it different? Does it bother you to think of Jesus as asking us to “market” (i.e., persuade people to follow) the Good News? Why or why not?
  4. In your experience, where do these ever-expanding chains break down? In other words, offer some guesses as to what might sabotage a movement.
  5. Based on your learning style, would you rather be involved in a “live training” with an “expert” (an experienced disciple-maker) or would you be comfortable using a web-driven tool like Zúme as your learning approach? Explain.

 

Chapter 12

Tools and Tips for Im plementers

  1. This chapter presents 17 tools or tips for those wishing to launch CPM/DMM in their particular context. Pick out the top three approaches that would seem the most practical and effective for you, in your church or context. Explain why you chose those three.
  2. Consider the idea of making a list of people for whom you will pray. Does it bother you to think you might be on such a list (that someone else made)? Explain why or why not.
  3. For your learning style and preferences, would you rather learn “Creation to Judgment” (C2J) or the Three Circles Life Conversation? Explain why. What would it take for you to learn such a tool well? Would it be helpful? If so, what’s stopping you?
  4. This chapter mentioned that it might feel, at first, intimidating to think of baptizing someone. Does it seem that way to you? Why or why not?
  5. Is it hard for you to lead others? (For example, are you afraid you’re not good enough to do so?) Explain your answer by referencing the section, “Duckling Discipleship.”

 

Chapter 13

Frequently Asked Questions

  1. This chapter attempts to discuss how CPM/DMM views the existing church. Explain why that question is difficult to answer. (Hint: Remember that “CPM/DMM” isn’t an organization but an organic collection of strategies and life practices.) In light of what you’ve now learned (or learned previously) about CPM/DMM, how do you view the existing church. (Remember — never trash the bride of Christ.) In an ideal world, what would be your perfect design for the church?
  2. Sometimes in the past, the idea of “discipleship” has meant other things than the way the term “disciple-making” is being used in CPM/DMM world. Compare and contrast with some of the meanings you’ve heard previously. How is the CPM/DMM usage helpful or not helpful? Why?
  3. This chapter pointed out that some CPM/DMM trainers emphasize only baptizing groups (never individuals). How do you feel about this idea? This chapter asserted that the Bible gave examples of instances in which individuals were allowed to come to Christ as individuals. Do you agree or disagree? How do you reconcile these two seeming contradictions between some trainers’ philosophy and these case studies from the Bible?
  4. Analyze the difference between emphasizing “works” and accountability (in CPM/DMM strategies). How do you feel about the difference?
  5. Do you think CPM/DMM will, in the end, be a fad? Give your reasoning.

 

Chapter 14

A Call for Unity

  1. Try to think of an example of a new product or movement that began with one individual or one company. In those cases, how did it help or hurt the promotion and acceptance of that product or movement? In your opinion, how does it help or hurt that CPM/DMM strategy wasn’t “invented” or isn’t shepherded, as such, by any one person or organization?
  2. At this point in your understanding of implementing CPM/DMM strategy and life practices, would you rather be bold in your proclamation? … or do you see yourself more “laid back?” How will you react when you meet someone who feels it’s imperative to be more forthright in one’s presentation of the Good News? Explain why.
  3. Can you think of any other examples in which Godly men and women have disagreed about doctrine or biblical approaches? Name a couple and give examples of how this has helped or hurt the growth in Kingdom of God worldwide.

 

Chapter 15

Epilogue: Understanding Faithfulness

  1. Curtis Sergeant feels that two ideas have caused a number of problems in the church today. Which do you think has caused more problems than the other and why?
  2. Does it bother you to consider that you might be following someone who is still “learning to ride a bike?” (In other words, could you see yourself following an imperfect mentor?) Explain your answer.
  3. There have been some disturbing studies recently, like the one referenced in this chapter by Lifeway Research. Can you remember any recent findings about Christendom that shocked you? For example, something about a certain generation falling away or a study about how many people can’t remember what the Great Commission is? How can you reconcile these findings with our current method of discipling believers? In other words, what has gone wrong? How would you fix things if you were in charge?
  4. Where are you on the spectrum of knowledge versus practice? For example, do you believe God can work through a new believer to win or teach others? Why or why not?
  5. This chapter emphasizes a humble spirit for all teachers. Can you remember a preacher or pastor who seemed a bit prideful? How did it impact your willingness to listen and obey?

 

Wrapping up

Questions for Discussion about the book as a whole:

  1. What did you find most interesting in this book? What did you like?
  2. What did you find most difficult? What caused you the most confusion?
  3. What did you learn about people in this book?
  4. What did this book teach you about God?
  5. Is there anything in this book that you feel called to obey? What will you do about the things you’ve learned? What will be your next step? How will you begin implementing these teachings? Explain.
  6. Is there someone you might be able to train about any of these concepts? (Please write down a name.) Who can you tell that might hold you accountable to do that?
  7. With whom can you share this book and these teachings?

Let’s do this, together

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“Who would follow me?” One of the barriers I face, most days, is one of responsibility. What do I need to do today? Who do I need to talk to? How do I make sure everyone is doing what they need to do? Really, for me, it comes down to the insecurity of, “Why would anyone, in their right mind, think what I am doing is a good idea?” Before, faced with that vision of crushing responsibility, I responded by doing nothing. What I came to realize was profound: nobody would think it’s a good idea and that’s a good thing. Ecclesiastes 1:1-11 came into focus. Only the eternal work of my Father matters and I follow Him. Released of the responsibility of having to be anything more than what God made me, I am now free to simply follow Him and show others what I’ve seen. Today I reached out to some friends and told them about this really great thing He is doing. I’m going to give simple obedience a try for 30 days and see where it goes. You want to do this with me? Day 2, Let’s do this – together.

Discipleship Through the Eyes of Youth: Day 2

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So I read the challenge to recruit another yesterday and immediately felt God lay my friend Morgan on my heart. Morgan is two years younger than I so she is getting ready to be a Junior in High School. She loves the Lord and genuinely loves people.

God’s timing again has played out perfectly as Morgan and I had already made plans to hang out last night. She came over to my house to spend the night.

Morgan is an avid reader and so as we were sitting on my bed talking she began telling me about the book she has been reading lately called “Multiply” by Francis Chan. I am again in awe of how God is moving behind the scenes of this 30 day challenge and I’ve only been through Day 2. After she told me about Multiply we started talking about discipleship and I ran and got my laptop so I could pull up the 30 day challenge and show it to her. She thought it was pretty interesting and she turned to me and asked “So what day are you on?” I pulled up the Day 2 page and she read at the top “Recruit Another” and just started laughing. We were both in awe of God and his timing and just started laughing.

As we talked more about discipleship Morgan mentioned how she wants to be a disciple but feels like she still needs to work on her faith with God before she can be. I showed her the Day 1 video that explained how the first disciples were just regular people who obeyed Jesus. I also told her about the discipleship questions (that I mentioned in my Day 1 post) that have stuck with me the past 6 months… “Is someone pouring into you?” (Discipling You) and inreturn “Are you pouring into someone else?” (Discipling Others). I told her how I felt that God was challenging me with these questions but I wasn’t really sure what to do about it. I felt that through life groups I was being discipled but that I was slacking on my part and not discipling others. Morgan told me, “Don’t think you haven’t had an impact, because you’ve encouraged me in my faith.” She then asked me if we could start meeting on a weekly basis to talk about our faiths and disciple one another. I praise God for his sovereignty! He has heard my questions and answered me. “Is someone pouring into you?” – With my high school life groups now being over I now feel that my friend Annie has stepped into this role for the summer as we continue to encourage and stretch one another. In return, “Are you pouring into someone else?” – I feel that God has answered this question through my meeting with Morgan last night and I look forwards to continuing to meet with her and talk about how God is moving in her life. But I’ve also learned that these questions aren’t one-sided because as I talk with Annie I’ve realized it’s not just her pouring into me, I’m pouring into her as well. Talking with Morgan last night not only was I able to encourage and pour into her, but she poured into me as well and I believe she will continue to do so. Discipleship works both ways.

Join me and Morgan in prayer as she asks God if the 30 day discipleship challenge is something He wants her to do.

Day 2 – A Running Partner

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Andrew brought Peter. Philip found Nathanael. One found a family member. One found his friend. The point — finding Jesus was too good to keep to themselves. The same is true today! Sergeant’s video reminder — every Marine is a rifleman — every disciple’s first calling is to be a disciple maker; is a great reminder that has been lost in today’s church. It is time for a comeback!

I see something else at work here too — and, oh, how important, how imperative it is! If you don’t have a mate running alongside you; then, who will pick you up when you go down? Who will spur you up and over those mountains? If you aren’t a runner, trust me when I say, running with someone is so much better than running alone!

Day 2: Why add when you can multiply?

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Discipleship has been on my heart for the last 3 years.  I believe God woke me up to this through a lot of the books I had been reading.  One of the books talked about Multiplication of disciples and if we trained 2 disciples who discipled others each year it would be around 6 billion in 30 years.  I thought that would be a really cool legacy to have since I was 33 at the time to shoot for.   Over the last couple of years that has been my focus but it is hard to stay focused on the simplicity of that.  It seems like not enough, it seems like their should be a better way.  But what if we just simplified discipleship to this.  It would mean we would  have to get rid of many “Good” church things, and things in general, and really focus.  

I read through the first 4 of these before I started the challenge and decided to have our discipleship group go through this..  For the last year we have been doing “Discipleship Groups” based off the book by Bob McNabb “Spiritual Multiplication in the Real World.”  It has been challenging and encouraging.  I really truly believe so many people in the church want more but they are not sure what that more is.  So ask some people to try this with you and see if this leads to that more.  Try not to just ask the people you think are spiritual but ask those who you think are hungry to learn.  Believe me, it might surprise you and also encourage someone as you ask them to live this out with you.

Discipleship When Life Is Busy: Day 2

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Day 2: Recruit Another.  After I read the challenge for today I began praying over who God wanted me to ask to join this challenge with me.  He gave me the name of a friend from my small group: Kelly.  I planned to ask her at church, but I looked for her before and after both services that I attended and never saw her.  So, I knew that she lead a junior high life group at the church on Sunday nights and I was going to the church anyway so I thought I would stop by and ask her then.  Well, of course, she wasn’t there tonight.  Finally, I just called her up on the phone.

Kelly is someone like me who is busy.  Her kids play all kinds of sports and are involved in many things in school, plus she and her husband serve on several ministries with our church.  I knew that, like me, it would feel like she didn’t have time, but I felt confident that God had placed her name on my heart for me to ask.  I told her all about the 30 day challenge and how she could find more information about it.  After laughing a little bit about my invitation, she said “You know, it’s funny that you would ask because I had just been praying yesterday and today that God would show me what He wanted me to do next.  I just didn’t think His answer would come tonight.”  She got off the phone and looked over the website.  Soon after, she texted me saying that she would accept the challenge! I am excited to have Kelly on board and can’t wait to see the things that God does through her discipleship!

I feel very encouraged tonight after seeing that God had been speaking to my friend at the same time He was speaking to me.  It is amazing to see the way God works.  The thing is: It is not about what I can do, but what GOD can do through me.  This is His discipleship challenge to do with what He desires.  Maybe some of the things we will do in the next 30 days aren’t things that I would just naturally do.  Maybe they are things that will require me to go a tad bit out of my comfort zone, but I think that is where God shines brightest.  In 1 Corinthians 1 it says:

Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called.  Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.  But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.  God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things – and the things that are not – to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him.  It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God – that is, our righteousness, holiness, and redemption.  Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

(1 Cor. 1: 26-31)

NonSequential

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Does church growth always happen in predictable patterns, along predictable lines, in predictable sequences? Not necessarily, says Curtis Sergeant, trainer in DMM principles. Nature would tend to agree. Check out the Gulin Mountains  in the header picture above. See how there are beautiful patterns which appear, at first, regular and symmetric, but, upon further study, can sometimes be wildly random. Listen as he explains his position about disciple making movements (DMM) — and think about the examples you’ve studied in God’s word. Can you remember instances in which people became disciples in nonsequential ways?

The Importance of Multiplication

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Throughout MoreDisciples.com, we feature trainers who share and elaborate on the concepts we’re presenting in the 30-Day Challenge. These trainers will help you pick up on key topics such as how to facilitate a Discover Bible Study (or Three-Thirds Group), principles in launching disciple making movements (or DMM’s), and becoming a disciple worth multiplying. Here is Curtis Sergeant answering the question, “Why should we even talk about multiplication?”

The Importance of Multiplication

What Kind of Character Does it Take?

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What kind of person does it take to disciple people who will want to make disciples? What kind of character does it take to stand beside them? Start with prayer. Add in care. Then pour on a thick layer of training. To help you imagine what kind of person you might need to become, and to help you imagine those you want standing beside you, watch this video by trainer, Richard Williams.

Richard Williams

Could this book help us recruit?

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If we’re going to be successful at mobilizing the whole church in these DMM principles, I wonder if we’re going to have to be more creative than we ever have before. For example, could this book (which seeks to weave DMM principles into a novel or story-line) help us convey the concepts to someone who might never have imagined them otherwise?

hastening

Click the image of the book to see the listing on Amazon to read/learn more — or, if you prefer, copy this link and paste it into your browser:

http://www.amazon.com/Hastening-No-Place-Left-Book-ebook/dp/B017E406B2

 

Join the conversation about recruiting another 30-day Challenge participant

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world-lights-large-200x200Do you have a story about recruiting another 30-day Challenge participant? Did he or she agree, then come back to tell you how much he or she appreciated the process? Or are you having trouble figuring out how? Just click “Comment” below. If you’re willing to become a regular blogger about implementing the 30-Day challenge, just say so in your reply. We’ll elevate your status so you can create regular blogs about multiplying disciples.